What Lib Dem MPs voting against the amendments said last night

I have looked through the Commons debate on the Justice and Security bill last night. Simon Hughes and Dr Julian Huppert said plenty to support Labour’s amendments.

But I could find only three short interventions from LibDem MPs who voted against the amendments:

Sir Menzies Campbell, intervening in Caroline Lucas’ speech:

I do not challenge the hon. Lady’s sincerity for a moment, but I hope she will accept that when it comes to voting on matters of such important principle, every Liberal Democrat MP is obliged to use his or her judgment. She speaks as if Ministers were in a position to resolve these matters. Ministers are entitled, through barristers or advocates, to make application to a court on which the judge has to decide. Ministers may wish to bring about such an objective, but unless a judge is satisfied that that is in the interests of national security, they will not be successful.

…and intervening in Sir Malcolm Rifkind’s speech:

My right hon. and learned Friend makes a powerful point regarding the interests of the plaintiff. If a PII certificate were to be utilised in such circumstances, the plaintiff would have no chance of taking advantage of any conduct on the part of the intelligence agencies and others that could result in his action being successful.

Sir Alan Beith intervening in James Brokenshire’s speech:

Now that the Minister is talking about engaging Parliament and now that his right hon. and learned Friend the Minister without Portfolio is back in his place, is it not a good moment to address the idea that Parliament should be engaged by ensuring that the reviewer who can look into all the secret aspects is appointed with the agreement of a Committee of both Houses of Parliament—namely, the Joint Committee on Human Rights?

I can only make head or tail of the first one.


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